[OHPV-list] My Upright vs. Bent Experiment

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John,

Please buy me a Carbent so I can test your assumption about weight and 
climbing.  I'll pay the shipping!!!  <gr&d>

Joe

P.S. I'll see you two cookies and raise you an OREO that the TE is faster 
than the Bridgestone given the route Carolyn describes.   On a hilly route, 
my plain basic OREO cookies (none of that new fangled stuff) would be on the 
Bridgestone.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Climaldi" <john4bho at mac.com>
To: "Carolyn Devine" <helianthus at comcast.net>
Cc: <OHPV-list at ohpv.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: [OHPV-list] My Upright vs. Bent Experiment


>I would like to wager 2 cookies and a power bar. My prediction, short
> and sweet. The Bridgestone is not much lighter then the TE, so the
> times will favor the TE by 4:00 to 8:00 minutes on a 25 mile route.
> Now if you were on a light Road bike (17 pound job) then you would be
> faster on it assuming there are a lot of climbs. Just My $.02.
>
> BTW, bents climb just fine and do well on the flats when you compare
> apples to apples. A 17 pound bent will climb just as well as a 17
> pound df, even if you can't stand on the pedals!
>
> John
> On Apr 12, 2006, at 5:35 PM, Carolyn Devine wrote:
>
>> hi Folks!
>> here's the scoop -
>> I'm going to answer for myself which I'm faster on, my 'bent or my
>> upright on a loop that has a variety of conditions (hills, flats,
>> city).
>> The route is 25+ miles, a conglomerate of 3 different commutes I've
>> had since moving to PDX - so it's  tried and true and I don't have to
>> think about where I'm going.
>>
>> There are some big hills ( the cemetery and the zoo)
>> and some great cruising flats (Mult. Blvd, oaks bottom trail)
>>
>> I'm going to do each route a few times in each direction on each bike
>> (still figuring out how many replicates are required for good
>> data...it may depend on how much I vary in time after a few trials)
>> and intend on taking note of times at 3 or 4 points along the way
>> (top of Sylvan Hill, top of Cemetery, etc.).
>> Or maybe it'd be better if I wasn't aware of how I am doing and just
>> pushed myself the whole time...I'd like the data (am I really
>> climbing that much slower on the 'bent? am I really going that much
>> faster on the flats?), but don't want my psyching myself out one way
>> or the other to skew things. any thoughts? maybe call myself on the
>> cell phone w/out looking at the time so that i have a time stamp?
>>
>> What's your guess on which bike will be faster? or will I average out
>> to be about the same speed for the entire route?
>> My question to myself is:
>> If "recumbents can't climb" can I make up for it on the flats?
>>
>> I understand that the conclusion will only be for me/my body on this
>> particular route with these not necessarily comparable bikes (the TE
>> weighs a lot more, for one thing!); the Bridgestone was marketed as a
>> "sport touring" bike).
>> So while I'm not going to over extrapolate the data,
>> i'm just curious....are you? or do you think one will be faster as a
>> foregone conclusion?
>>
>> Carolyn
>>
>> Not a perfect experiment:
>> I rode the TE 5,560 miles since May 1 2005; and the Bridgestone <50
>> since April 1, 2006 --
>> but f it's "not about the bike" then I should be approximately the
>> same speed on both, right?
>> wanna take some bets? cookies to the one who guesses closest? -- do I
>> need to establish a line? ;*)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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